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  1. 1 Karwwnta Itaeaetsin
    2012 Jan 12

    White Wolf and Mystifier, etc…are any on facebook? Would love to connect. You can find me under Shawn Cooley.

  2. 2 Cowanesque
    2011 Dec 16

    it is not true that the tribes have have all disapeared I know of two still exist of the susquhannok people, the Reed, and the Moon tribes still retain thier names my grand mother told me she was a relitive of the woman named wonsha that was a sister to my great grandmother that had went to the county Tioga to meet and marry a holy man, my great great grand father he was a Reed tribe as I grew up near the area of my elders and came to know my great uncles and aunts I found the name Moon also is cousins in the susquhannok even today its comon to hear in roll call at any school in mid northern PA school last names of the tribes , even if they themselves have forgoten why:) and Im glad to know more of us are out here. My name is Cowanesque Reed as with tradition my mom kept her last name my fathers last name was Moon. I was raised by my grandmother and may try telling some things that may be part of helping us remember our heritage

  3. 3 davi' taylor
    2011 Dec 11

    This may be a strange question but during my own life search I came across your web-site. Question(s)are: Was there a fire the year of 1763 which killed many children there? Was there a school, orphanage, or village nearby that was destroyed by fire? Any fire disasters @ the area which took Native American lives, mostly children in the year of 1763? I am of Cherokee/White/and a drop of Blackfoot decent. The Cherokee’s are said to be made of five different tribes, don’t know who named us. I consider myself Cherokee. I am a spiritualist.
    Thank you for reading.
    Peace to you and yours,
    always,
    davi’

  4. 4 Karwwnta Itaeaetsin
    2011 Dec 07

    I really love the cover picture on the site. Is there any way you could send me a copy? I would love to use it occasionally for my desktop. The meaning is special. Thanks. Karwwnta Itaeaetsin (Stone Man).

    BrokenClaw’s reply: As with most images on the web, you can save it to your computer in the normal fashion. On Windows, right click, “View background image”, then right click again and “Save image as..”

  5. 5 Allison Norman
    2011 Nov 21

    I grew up hearing a family story indicating that my maternal grandfather’s grandmother was Native American (Iroquois). According to the few records that exist, her name would have been Elizabeth Layser (nee Elizabeth Dengert); she was born in 1803 in Myerstown, PA (Lebanon Co.). Our family story maintains that either she or her mother was fully Native American, and that our Native ancestor married a German settler (which I imagine would have been Mr. Dengert, her father, for whom I can find no information). Since the Susquehannock lived/live in the appropriate area and since the language belongs to the Iroquois language group, I am guessing that my ancestor was most likely Susquehannock (or belonging to a sub-tribe). Please let me know if you have any info that might help me to either validate or disprove this possibility – I would very much like to know which culture my great-great-grandmother belonged!

  6. 6 Joost
    2011 Nov 08

    @Sarah Markel,
    Hi Sarah, Is there a right age to tell kids (part of) their history? I think not.

    This is cool information I just stumbled upon because of a white shamanist claiming on his website to be an adopted member of Florida’s Susquehannock tribe. Which is weird, since the tribe seems to be extinct apart for some dna in a generally white population. (Shaman you!) Does anyone know of a tribe claiming to be the remnant of the proud Susquehannock, in Florida or elsewhere?

    BrokenClaw’s reply: I am familiar with the website you are talking about. At one time I had considered adding it to the Resources page here. But after reading the website, I couldn’t find any discussion there that explained his connection to the Susquehannock.

  7. 7 Nicole
    2011 Aug 15

    My grandmother has told me many stories regarding the history of her family. The one I am most curious about pertains to her great grandfather, whom she says was an Iroquois Indian. She grew up near him in Newport, PA. He was married to someone with the maiden name of Trimmer. However, his name was John Smith (I know, an unusual name for Native American), and he is buried in Newport cemetary. It’s difficult to locate a person with the last name Smith. Any suggestions regarding this would be appreciated. I feel as though his ancestors may have changed their last name to remain hidden for protection against enemies.

  8. 8 Verna Toms
    2011 Aug 01

    My GGG Grandmother’s name was Mary Greene (she married a Uhler.) The story told by my grandfather was that my GGGG Grandmother was kidnapped by the Susquehannock Indians… She then married The Chief & had my great great great grandmother. The story from Nicholas Provard could possibly be a connection. I would think that most Indian men would have gone out to find a bride. My grandfather is deceased so I have no other information. I do have a picture of Mary & GGG Grandfather Uhler. Thank-you for all the information you have provided.

  9. 9 Richard Rauch
    2011 Jul 30

    As near as I can put things together, I am related to a Susquehannoc sub-tribe that lived along the Lycoming Creek, not far from Williamsport. A Susquehannoc medicine woman from that tribe married a Dutch settler. She was my great great grandmother. I don’t recall the dates, but that tribe was deliberately decimated when a white sent them blankets infected with small pox. The few survivors died fighting the whites.

    Today, my blood includes Susquehannoc, Dutch, German, and Jew.

    Its a long story, so I’ll skip most of it, but roughly 30 years ago, I was converted from atheism to native beliefs, when a native spirit guide came to me. I have talked with full-bloods of other nations, that have tried hard for a large part of their lives to get a spirit guide, and none came to them. And yet one came to me when I didn’t believe in much of anything, and I certainly never asked for one. I asked him, “Why me?”, and his answer was, “Because you needed help.”. He was right, I did, and with his help, I was able to change my life for the better. I also learned about a species of animal that I had never heard of before, and which was hunted to extinction long ago: The Golden Bear, a cousin of the Grizzly, with gold tinged fur rather than silver tinged. Because that animal was native to the west, I am assuming that my guide came from a western tribe as well, but he himself never said. I never saw him after he helped me, but every day I am very thankful for his help, and I know how very lucky I was that he chose to come to me. That is why, even tho I am of mostly European blood, I choose to honor and follow native beliefs as best I can. My biggest regret, is that there are no shamans left of the Susquehannoc nation to teach me their ways.

    Rick R,
    bansheguy@yahoo.com

  10. 10 Mystifier
    2011 Jul 20

    My great grandfather was full blooded susquahannock which means my grandfather was half blooded. There has been much lost in the family when it comes to heritage but my grandfather taught me to be self sufficient by catching minnows with just my bare hands and how to find underground water with a Y shaped stick. My grandfather was also a bee keeper and would get me fresh honeycomb every time that I came visiting. I have also been lucky because my family must have had shamans as well. I am a shaman, healer, and a spiritual guide. I know most of the knowledge without even trying. I have been working with the spiritual realm since I was 6 years old and have been informed by other shamans that I have eagle medicine which I guess is not very common. It would have been nice to know or at least be guided with someone who understands it all. I lost that with the deaths of my family members. Now I am trying to acquire the lost knowledge and am writing down what I know and have experienced, so that my sons will have what I have not.

  11. 11 Rob Danner
    2011 Jul 11

    Hi, My name is Rob. As far as I know, my family is of German Descent and lived mostly in the Reading area, but some of my ancestry is from the coal regions. My mother’s father may not be he real father. Other than my PA dutch heritage, I know very little about my lineage. I would guess I am mostly German. I admit I feel a huge connection to the Susquehannock and don’t know why, but feel strongly that I need to understand them better. I feel a major connection to the Susquehanna River and often take my kayak out into her waters. I feel that bay is really the River or the River is really the Bay. They are one and maybe the Susquehannock were here today, they would tell us the same thing. The river and the bay are one, to save the bay, we must save the river.

    Anyway, I want to know as much about the Susquehannock as possible. Is there away to really get this conversation going? The Susquehannock are a vital part of Pennsylvania and the United States history. History says they are an extinct people, but they really are an absorbed people, but they are still a people. They must not be totally absorbed and they must show through the cloth and seen by all.

  12. 12 Laura Tedesco
    2011 Jun 13

    Hi, my name is Laura I live in Elkton Maryland mother of seven children, I’am looking for a place to find native american, is there such a place where one can have followship,My mother had told me that their is a good chance that I have native blood in me when most people see me they often take me spnish or native american. Place help me with this.

    Mrs. Laura Tedesco

  13. 13 Monique Winston
    2011 Apr 14

    Wow! glad to know I’m not crazy. After researching my family bloodlines, I discovered my maternal great-grandmother’s family was Susquehannock. The surname is Till. My great-cousins used to play a jump rope game that told the story of my ancestors at Fort Indiantown. Those that are still alive cannot remember the song. I have located records back to Juniata, Mifflin and Allegheny. They were forced off the land at Fort Indiantown and slowly moved to western PA. The entire family disappeared between 1860-1880. They re-emerged in 1880 in Chartiers township. I don’t know what happened to them between that time. The family history was kept secret for the most part. My ancestors were afraid if someone found out who they were, they would meet the same end as the rest of their relations. My curiosity won out and the story began to unfold. George Till (mixed-blood Susquehannock) married Jane R. Yaw (white/canadian indian, possibly mik’maq). They had 13 children, according to the family bible). I was told that siblings who could pass for white, did so. And those who appeared mixed, were labeled mulatto. Some of the “mulattos” that remained in PA, married mixed free blacks (who were also referred to as mulatto in some census’). Others married natives. And for the sake of protecting their true identity, the siblings all went their separate ways. And it seems the family still holds to this tradition. LOL None of my family relations can remember anyone ever talking about “the others”. However, I recently found a descendent of one of George and Jane’s children (not from my direct line). Not surprisingly, she shared the same stories I had been told about our family and Fort Indiantown. So, there were Susquehannock that escaped the “massacres” and survived the smallpox epidemic. My family certainly remained in the area (in disguise). I wonder how many names/surnames never made it on official lists?!?! I hope to find more of my Till/Yaw relations.

  14. 14 J. Clabeaux
    2011 Mar 15

    Hi, I love your website. I have a great-uncle who is Susquehannock on one side and Pennsylvania Dutch on the other. I myself am not of Native descent, but I have always been fascinated with them. I wanted to know more about my uncle’s Indian ancestry, and I found this. The Susquehannock are still around, don’t forget it. Thank you, and keep posting new articles!

  15. 15 Mark
    2011 Mar 11

    Just wanted to say thank you for this site and info on the Susquehannock peoples!!

    I was born and have lived most of my life on the banks of the mighty Susquehanna River in Tunkhannock, PA. Used to swim and play in her mud at every oppurtunity and her flood waters visited my childhood basement often, like today, but thankfully I’m now a little farther away safe from the floods but I can still see her from here. Did you know the Susquehanna River has been here since before the Atlantic Ocean exsited, before the Appalachian mountains popped up, even before Pangea broke apart, some say she is the oldest river on planet Earth!

    Far as I know I’m all European blood but always felt like the world would be much better off if everyone lived like Indians, as a part of nature not as an adversary, and that would be completely fine by me.

    Think my town is a Delaware word and was named after Chief Taughannock whom was supposedly thrown off the falls of the same name near Ithaca, NY by the Iriquois after a dispute, awesome place for a nice walk if you’re ever in that area!

    So thanks again for the site and info!

    Good times and living to you,

    MarkV

  16. 16 J. D. Arment
    2011 Feb 25

    I read that if I wanted to be a member, that I had to use the contact page. And leave my info. Anyway, that being done, I’ve been told that I’m part Native American. I’ve done research on my ancestry and can’t find any Indian blood in my family tree, though there are some blanks as far as wives of ancestors whose names I don’t have nor any info on them whatsoever, so that might be a clue that I have some, though it’s not proof. But if I am, the connection is probably in the 18th century. I am however interested in Indians that lived in this area. I’m in Lancaster PA, close to where the Susquehannocks lived. I’m also interested in the Delaware Indians & Sioux. Anyway, that’s my story.

  17. 17 Luke Osborne
    2011 Feb 24

    I have been researching Susquehannock Native Americans for years and I love learning about this amazing tribe! I grew up in Conowingo, Maryland where they were the dominant tribe of the area. I’m so glad I found this website! -Luke

  18. 18 Spirit
    2010 Dec 28

    I know that my grandmother was susquehannock because she was from Maryland and she was 6’4. The Susquehannock Tribe still exists and we are the descendants with the same tribal characteristics.

  19. 19 Valerie Malone
    2010 Dec 22

    I am also a decendect of the susquehannocks my mothers maiden name is morningstar my great-great grandfather was a member and im looking for more information about the tribe and our history to pass it on to my son if anyone knows any information about the morningstars can you please e-mail me valgal7445@aol.com thank you and very nice page

  20. 20 cathy shockley
    2010 Dec 02

    Hi

    To my dismay, I have reason to believe that my ancestors may have been members of the Paxton Boys, however, I can not document this. They were living in the area at the time and their occupation was “coopers”. They were Presbyterians. Is there a list out there? Also, encouraging research indicates, however that my relatives may have been associated with the Moravian Bretheren, and or Leni Lapi Indians. I want to believe that they perhaps had been Presbyterian, but broke away from the religious group because of the terrible , unChristian behavior such as described in these terrible Indian Massacres.
    Any ideas of where to continue my research?
    thanks
    cathy

  21. 21 Renee Waring
    2010 Nov 27

    May I suggest that we pull our resources and start a DNA test on this web site? If enough people participate we may find some answers plus I know where we can get samples of possible Anundesta remains to test. All of us have stories and we want answers.

  22. 22 Molly S.
    2010 Nov 14

    Hello,

    I am a student teacher in Central Pennsylvania. I am going to be teaching a unit on Native Americans, and because of the location of the school, I will be discussing the Susquehannocks with them. Because it is a Kindergarten classroom, students come into the class with many stereotypical assumptions and misconceptions about Native Americans. I plan to dispel these misconceptions, but think it would be really great if there was a way for the students to have contact with ancestors of the Susquehannocks. I’m not sure if any ancestors would be able to give a short presentation, but I think that would be wonderful for the students to see and I would really appreciate any assistance.

    Thanks for your time and I look forward to hearing from you.

  23. 23 Van Wagner
    2010 Nov 10

    Very nice website. Thank you! I wanted to pass along a song I wrote about the Susquehannock. I offer it in remembrance of our ancestors.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07xskPjRJt8

  24. 24 Beatrice Chauvin
    2010 Nov 05

    Hello, i am Beatrice, I am French and I live in Paris, France. I am a professonial photographer, I am 55. I used to live in Maryland when I was a small kid, from 1957 to 1960.We used to live near Havre de GrĂ¢ce on Aberdeen Proving Ground.I have come to your beautiful site because I am searching the story of the Susquehanna River and naturally of the Susquehannock Indians.We spent a lot of time playing on the shores of the Susquehanna Rive my brother and I when we were there and I know that the beauty of this place and the story of the indians writen in this very nature impressed me for all my life. How coud you explain that when I was 20 I wrote a master about the Cheyenne Indians at La Sorbonne. I keep coming back to one of the 300 slides my dad took when we were there, it is taken on the Susquehanna River and I want to find the place to take another picture. How could I send you the picture so that you may help me? I need to know something else too: when was the Susquehanna River Park created. I hope you will answer me. Warm regards, Beatrice Chauvin

  25. 25 Elaine Bearer
    2010 Nov 02

    Thank you for writing this website.
    We believe our family descends from the Susquehannock of Pennsylvania.
    My father is now 92, and his brother 97. They tell of family history, partly forgotten, of a “farm”, possibly a reservation, in Pennsylvania where their grand-parents lived. The family photographs appear to be Native American. They came to believe in “assimilation” yet even now preserve many older traditions of woodlands and native life-style.
    My sister and I are happy to find a website that recognizes this tribe and does not claim our heritage to be “extinct” — we and our large family are very much alive and still remember many of the old ways.
    Elaine

  26. 26 Dee West
    2010 Oct 22

    I am interested in finding information on the history of my ancestors. I was given only minimal information. Perhaps I can learn more from your website.

  27. 27 Carla Luedtke
    2010 Sep 24

    Thank you for the very valuable information. My GGG Grandmother(Maternal) was full Susquehannoc and married a white man (a Lee). I am very thankful to find out the history of my peoples.

  28. 28 Rick Harding
    2010 May 31

    I’m taking a shot in the dark. So please bear with me. My Dad’s mothers family were long time Susquehanna valley residents. Dad said his Grandfather told him stories of being of Native American ancestry. This background is from GG Jake’s mother, Elizabeth Ely. Her parents were William Ely and Martha Hover. Martha’s parents were Jacob and Margaret. Both born in the 1790′s. The Hover’s were of Dutch ancestry from the Hudson valley. They came to Pa. prior to the Revolution. Margarets maiden name is unknown to me. She was by family history, a full blood indian. Again by family stories the Native background was said to be Iroquois or Mingo. I know that such descriptions are very general and vague. I should have asked more when my Grandmother was still with us, but I did not. It seems that GG Jake was the last one in the family to know, or care about such things. GG Jake and GGG Elizabeth were born in the Nanticoke/Plymouth area. GGGG Martha was from the Dauphin co./Lebanon co. area, but not sure where she was born. I know that the Susquahannock are refered to as Minqua in some writings, that’s why I thought I’d post this question on this site. Any of these family names ring a bell with anyone? I’ve had a lot of dead ends and non verifiable info. The heritage trail seems to have gone cold, but I find it hard to give up without a better answer. I don’t doubt the old family stories, as there would be no benefit to having Indian ancestry being known in the late 1800′s, early 1900′s. My Dad heard these stories in the 30′s and 40′s. Jake passed away in 1946, and I’m afraid a lot of family history with him. Thanks for any info or leads.
    Rick
    northwoods3030@yahoo.com

  29. 29 BrokenClaw
    2010 May 09

    Liz,
    Ancestries back to 1850 are generally trackable through the US census, if you know where they lived and their approximate birthdates. For native American ancestry, the tribal censuses around the turn of the 20th century may be helpful, for people who remained associated with an organized tribe. Unfortunately, that was rarely the case in the eastern states.

  30. 30 Liz D.
    2010 Apr 13

    Hello,

    I have been told by my grandparents that we are decendants of a Susquehannock woman who was the daughter of a chief or leader of some sort. I didn’t know this until I was 18 as my parents divorced and I never saw my grandparents after that. I also have been told that there is a connection on the same side of the family to the Cherokees. How can I find out more about this if no one seems to remember the names of the Susquehannock and Cherokee people in our family history? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

  31. 31 Hank Smeltzer
    2010 Mar 14

    Hi there,
    I’m a recreational cyclist, riding primarily in the eastern York county and western Lancaster County area of South Central Pa. While out riding earlier this week, I came upon a historical marker regarding the slaughter of the last members of the Conestoga tribe in western Lancaster County. It is located at the intersection of Safe Harbor Rd. and Indian Marker Rd.

    Aside from the tragic description of the slaughter, the word used to describe the crime on the marker is “extermination”. As if those people were some sort of vermin to be trapped or poisoned. I found that characterization very offensive and wondered what the best way might be to get the plaque changed. I thought the word of some formal historical Indian organization might carry more weight.
    What are your thoughts?
    Sincerely,
    Hank Smeltzer,
    Craley, PA

  32. 32 Karwwnta Itaeaetsin
    2010 Feb 05

    My great-great grandfather came over from Ireland and married a half Irish, half Susquehannock woman named Armilda Killikey around Lancaster, Pennsylvania. My displayed name is Susquehannock and means Stone Man. I am also Cherokee and Chickasaw, with cousins among the Hupa and Osage.

  33. 33 Leo Eckenrode
    2009 Dec 06

    I want to thank you for creating such a wonderful website. I grew up in Baltimore County in Maryland.
    Baltimore County was part of the Susquehannock’s hunting ground. All my life I have been aware of the Susquehannock people. I just knew that there had to be descendants somewhere! I’m so happy to know that my feelings were true. Whenever I hike along the Gunpowder River in Baltimore County I wonder about the Susquehannock people. There is a beautiful flat rock that juts out over the river and I like to pause to rest there and enjoy the forest and the river.
    I often wonder, did a Susquehannock stop here to rest?
    I sense your presence both physically and spiritually.
    I’m happy that you are still around and gathering together again!
    Peace,
    Leo


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